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Take Your Cue From the World`s Best Investor - Warren Buffet

MonteDobson

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Take Your Cue From the World`s Best InvestorDear Reader, Not long ago I excerpted a recent New York Times column by Warren Buffett explaining his take on the recent market sell-off.
Despite the dour economic outlook, Buffett expects U.S. companies to report record profits within five years. He is getting fully invested in stocks in his own personal account.

Since Buffett`s column originally ran on October 14th, however, the S&P 500 has dropped 13%.

Hardly a day goes by that I don`t get emails telling me that Buffett "blew it." He was "too early." Or he "failed to call the bottom."


I beg to differ. For the record, here is part of Buffett`s column that I excerpted:

"Let me be clear on one point: I can`t predict the short-term movements of the stock market. I haven`t the faintest idea as to whether stocks will be higher or lower a month - or a year - from now. What is likely, however, is that the market will move higher, perhaps substantially so, well before either sentiment or the economy turns up."


Let`s assume for a moment that Buffett is right and five years from now U.S. companies are reporting record profits.

Since we know that share prices follow earnings, the market will likely have met or exceeded its old record high. (The Dow crossed 14,000 in early October 2007.) Investors who bought good quality stocks at current levels will be in excellent shape. So will those who merely reinvested their dividends.

To clarify, let`s try a thought experiment: Today is December 8, 2013. The Dow is at 14,000. Looking back, you can now choose any one of these three options - and magically reinvent history.

Over the past six years:

[list type=decimal][*]The Dow soared from 14,000 to 18,000 and has now declined to 14,000. [list type=decimal][*]The Dow treaded water and rarely traded much higher or lower than 14,000.[/list type=decimal] The Dow sank to less than 8,000 and has since climbed back to 14,000.[/list type=decimal]
With the luxury of hindsight, which scenario would you prefer?

If you`re in the wealth accumulation phase, clearly the best answer is #3. It may have been scary, but this was the only scenario that offered you the maximum opportunity to buy low.

That`s why, unlike the average investor who is sitting on his hands (except to bite his nails occasionally), Buffett is actively buying stocks.


Some will counter that this is likely to be a steep recession and stocks may go substantially lower.

Buffett surely know this - and clearly reasons that this only makes option #3 more attractive.

History shows that most so-called market timers will either never move or move far too late. They`re comfortable in cash because they believe - quite rightly in my view - that the economy will only get worse.

But think hard - and read your history - before you opt out of the market entirely. Yes, the Dow sometimes falls during a recession. But, perversely, other times it soars.

For example, in the 13-month recession in 1926-27, the market went up 41.1%. In the 8-month recession in 1945, it went up 19.5%. In the 11-month recession in 1948-49, it went up 15.2%. In the 10-month recession in 1953-54, it went up 24.2%. In the 10-month recession of 1960-61, it went up 20.3%. In the 16-month recession in 1981-82, it went up 14.6%. And so on.

In my view, investors who are cursing this market are either spending far too much time listening to the &"end-of-the-worlders" or stuck looking back, not forward.


If Buffett is right - and he has a long history of being just that - these investors are moaning at opportunity`s door right now.

If you want to meet your five- and 10-year investment goals, imagine yourself five and 10 years from now. Ask yourself what you will wish then that you were doing with your money today.


Then govern yourself accordingly.

Good investing,

Alexander Green
 

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With respect to timing markets, the difference between ordinary individuals like myself and Warren Buffett is that we don`t all have more money than God; ergo, our margin of error is significantly lower. There are a lot more serious consequences for us, who don`t have silo`s of cash reserves to help offset any losses.

So, I`ll continue to disagree, and state my opinion that timing markets is still very important. And isn`t Buffett`s famous quote "be greedy when others are fearful, and fearful when others are greedy
"? Is that not a testament to the benefit of timing markets from the Oracle himself?
 

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QUOTE (Jack @ Dec 11 2008, 08:28 AM) So, I`ll continue to disagree, and state my opinion that timing markets is still very important.Yes as in any market you do not want to over-pay. The point of the matter is that there are some great deals out there right now and some VERY motivated vendors. Who knows what will happen over the next 12 months as only the "crystal ball" will know, but to me trying to time the absolute bottom of any market is impossible.

The beauty of real estate is that it moves VERY SLOW
compared to the stock market, so why not get into a position to buy when things are on sale...and if it`s lower tomorrow, who cares, it will go up over time
!!

Why not buy one house a month for the next 12 months (dollar cost averaging), then you should be able to find the bottom somewhere along the line!! Or give me a call the day the bottom hits and I`ll be ready with my chequebook.
 

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I`m investing in Edmonton right now. If I can KNOW that 5 years from now, the market will be WAY above current state, then it doesn`t matter if the market dips another 50% next year, since I don`t sell for 5-10 years. But the question is, what will the future of AB be like in 5-10 years? I`m guessing if the US starts profiting greatly within 5 years, the ripple effect will hit the major centers in Canada as well just like it is doing today.

Another question is, how will we be affected if our real estate unrealized loss is down 50% next year. For example, if we buy $1M worth of properties today, even though in 5 years they may be worth $2M, but before that time, say next year it is worth $500k and our mortgage is up for renewal. Will we be able to hold? Will the banks renew the mortgage or are we screwed?
 

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if you read buffett, he talks about pricing markets, but not timing them. if he knows a deal is good, and it fits his asset class, he buys. nevermind if it loses a little market value, he`s looking for a deal.



QUOTE (Jack @ Dec 11 2008, 07:28 AM) With respect to timing markets, the difference between ordinary individuals like myself and Warren Buffett is that we don`t all have more money than God; ergo, our margin of error is significantly lower. There are a lot more serious consequences for us, who don`t have silo`s of cash reserves to help offset any losses.

So, I`ll continue to disagree, and state my opinion that timing markets is still very important. And isn`t Buffett`s famous quote "be greedy when others are fearful, and fearful when others are greedy
"? Is that not a testament to the benefit of timing markets from the Oracle himself?
 
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